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Kim Kardashian Details Her & Kanye West’s Relationship With Their Surrogate Mothers

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Anyone who watches Keeping Up With The Kardashians knows that Kim Kardashian West and Kanye West used a surrogate to bring their two youngest children, Chicago and Psalm. Kim’s pregnancies with older children North, now-six, and Saint, 4, were notoriously difficult.

During her first pregnancy, Kim suffered from pre-eclampsia, which can be life-threatening for both the expectant mother and the unborn baby. Luckily, Kim and North both were fine. But soon after North came into the world, literally moments after, Kim was diagnosed with placenta accreta, which caused complications and would probably cause complications for baby #2, too.

“I had so many complications. I had this condition called placenta accreta,” Kim told C Magazine. “There were a couple little operations to fix all that so that created a little hole in my uterus, which I think made it really tough to get pregnant again [with Saint].” The operations that Kim underwent after her labor with Saint, made the likelihood of her being able to carry her children to term very unlikely. Thus, Kim and Kanye used surrogate mothers to round-out their family for their third and fourth babies.

The surrogate mothers have been kept very private, and many reports say that the women had to sign very specific non-disclosure agreements to get the opportunity to carry children for Kimye. In a podcast interview on the upcoming episode of All’s Fair With Laura Wasser, Kim details how she navigated relationships with the surrogate mothers and Kanye’s involvement in the pregnancies.

According to People, Kim revealed she used a surrogate therapist to help keep the relationship smooth for the first child. “You get your surrogate attorney, you get your surrogate broker. Then the broker recommended that we use a therapist that would communicate with me first and then communicate with [our surrogate] and kind of be our liaison,” she said.

Kim continued, “[The therapist] would suggest, ‘Hey, I think you guys should communicate once a week through text, maybe on Mother’s Day. She’s a mother as well. Maybe get her a massage or something that’s appropriate for her to pamper her.”

“For the first surrogate, we both met her and then met her husband and their kids came over to our house,” the reality star explained, according to ET. “She had two younger kids, so we felt a really good vibe from the start. I felt like the second time I felt like, ‘Oh, I got this.'” Therefore, she didn’t use a surrogate therapist the second time around.

“Both surrogates that we used were very comfortable with Kanye being involved any way he wanted to be,” Kim said. She also said the “Famous” rapper wasn’t in the room for Chicago’s birth and didn’t get very involved with Psalm’s surrogate mother “until the end” of the pregnancy, whereas he’d been in more communication with the gestational carrier for Chicago throughout.

A family is a family no matter how these kids come into the world, but it’s always interesting to see how certain parents navigate surrogacy. After all, the carrier is put in a very vulnerable position and something tells us carrying Kim and Kanye’s baby isn’t your run-of-the-mill surrogate experience.